BIG PICTURE: PLASTIC FANTASTIC

BIG PICTURE: PLASTIC FANTASTIC


Alright, so I think The Lego Movie 2: The
Second Part has been out long enough that it’s okay to do a spoiler-heavy episode
of it, right? Like if you’re really invested in remaining
spoiler-free for this one you probably saw it and if not you can probably just… not
watch this episode until you do? Plus I’m not gonna spoil the whole thing
– there’s actually two fairly huge (no I mean it like legitimately “Wow, that’s
a big chance to take in a kids movie…” kind of huge) twists to the story in this
one, but I’m really only interested in what’s, um… well, “interesting” about one of
them and it’s not necessarily the bigger of the two, so – yeah. Also it’s maybe a factor that people …don’t
seem as interested in this one? [Batman] “…and um, out of curiosity, why?” Not as in people don’t like it, as in people
didn’t rush out to see it according to the box-office. You might not have noticed that, because Internet
Babymen haven’t attached some idiotic “narrative” to the earnings of the Lego movies so it doesn’t
get reported on like the way whether or not Captain Marvel can cross $100 million its
first weekend is apparently a referendum on the entire history of women’s suffrage…
but yeah, Lego Movie 2 – not really as huge a hit as the first one and no one can really
seem to work out “why?” Maybe they did too many spin-offs too close
together? Who knows. Wouldn’t want to be the person who said,
“Sure, go for it!” to that Playmobil Movie right about now, though… [Del] “I have contacts everywhere.” [Maximus] “Ready to have some fun?” [clapping] “Yeah!” [Marla] “Run.” But whatever. Box-office doesn’t interest me, ideas
do – and The Second Part first of two big story twists is playing around with both a big thematic
idea and also the deconstruction of the same in a way that I’m not sure I’ve seen done
quite this way before, that I’m not sure… totally works but that I’m fascinated
to have seen any movie (especially an animated kid’s movie ostensibly about Lego) take a
swing at: It comes extremely close to attempting a satire… of satire, which is one of those things they
tell you you’re not supposed to even try doing; like dividing by zero or drinking soda
with Pop Rocks. [Stewie] “Diaper into diaper. That’s how you end up in another dimension.” Okay – you’ll remember from the previous
movie that the “big reveal” there was the elaborate Matrix-ish adventure story was
revealed to actually just be a little kid playing around with his dad’s Lego sets;
with an ending tease that his younger sister was going to join him and this would cause…
difficulties in a sequel. [laser blast] [Alien] “We’re from the planet Duplon. We’re here to destroy you.” The Second Part picks up a few years later
with the Lego “universe” having been split into warring factions – a “gritty post-apocalyptic”
version of the city from the first movie and the sparkly pastel “Sistar System” of
alien intruders, who abduct a group of main characters prompting a rescue mission. In other words: The two kids are having trouble
sharing the Legos, the kid sister has absconded to her room with some of the minifigs and
the brother is mad about this and going to get them back somehow, and the film doesn’t
really try to hide that we all know that’s where the reveal is going or that we know
what the denounment and lesson-learned will be. But, before that, we still see the “alien
abduction” storyline play out from the perspective of the Lego characters who don’t (really)
know they aren’t (really) “real” (sort of), and that’s where this get’s… complicated. See in the “Lego World” version of events,
the captured good guys are prisoners of the Sistar leader, “Queen Whatevera’Wananbi,”
a shape-shifter whose realm looks like an Apple store version of Candyland, sings a
Disney Villain-esque song about how she’s not evil in the key of a mass-market pop anthem,
gives the characters a sparkles-and-stickers makeover and lavishes them with elaborate
gifts tailored to their personalities and desires. Oh, and she also wants to marry Lego Batman
– that’s her ultimate goal. [Batman] “Can you image if having a family with someone I loved, healed some of my darkest drama?” “Barf.” In other words – as heroine WyldStyle keeps
trying to tell everyone – she’s acting exactly like a movie villain (cartoonishly so, in
fact) but also a very explicitly Gendered version of movie villainy; where powerful
women behaving generously are always playing at seduction with a sinister alterior motive,
and any display of power with a maternally-benevolent sheen will always turn out to be an iron fist
in a velvet glove. At the same time, when Emmet and new co-hero
Rex DangerVest show up for the rescue, they find the outer areas of the Sistar City comprised
of a suspiciously-tidy pastel 1950s-style suburb where all of the various Lego minifigures
“abducted” from their world have been living – but now instead of wanting to fight
or do adventures, they’re more into hanging out, homemaking, being friendly… in fact,
all the superheroes and their respective villains are friends here! No conflict, like they’ve been brainwashed…
and yes, the stylistic layout and “tone” of the sequence feels very much like an explicit
evocation of Cammazotz from Madeline L’Engele’s A Wrinkle in Time; one of the ur-examples
of the “conformist suburbia as dystopian mind-prison” trope. [Camazotz Woman] “Are you lost?” Which, incidentally, has been Western popular-fiction’s
favorite version of what “big insidious evil” is meant to look like pretty much since
the mid-1960s: Rooted somewhat in creative-industry resentment of the marketing business, you’ve
seen this metaphor played out in various forms across dozens of different stories, books,
films, comics, whatever: Pretty much since the Fall of Rome everyone has been able to
imagine themselves as a rebel faction versus “everyone else” as the omnipresent conforming
monolith, so this angle has worked as villain-analogy for everything from capitalism to communism
to religious fundamentalism to corporatism to whatever else…
…but it’s been most popular in the 20th Century as a way for Hollywood and the wider
entertainment industry to engage in a certain level of introspective-satire, self-criticism
and – well, a way for certain creators to draw strong lines of demarcation between their
work and other work in the same medium they consider less worthwhile, problematic, etc. On the movie side, the most prominent recent
example of this was The Hunger Games; where the evil totalitarian Capital expressed not
just the Hunger Games themselves but its entire civilization as a grotesque parody the Reality
Television aesthetic: Stagey, gaudy, opulent, overdressed, fashion/makeup/makeover-obsessed
(also weirdly queer-villainous-coded which is kinda odd under the circumstances…)
mass-appeal corporate pablum; versus the good guys who are scrappy, hardscrabble, working-class
rural and “authentic.” It’s not even only a genre-movie thing:
The mid-movie conflict in the most-recent version of A Star is Born is over whether
or not Ally is “selling out” by changing-up her style from soulful classic-rock to heavily
studio-produced dance-pop (which is kinda weird because the character is being played
by, y’know, Lady Gaga but to it’s credit the movie plays it mostly ambiguous as to
whether we’re supposed to think she’s really “sold out” or if Jackson Maine
is just being a dick about it at this point. Either way, Lego Movie 2 is keeping to that
same Hunger Games-ish direction; but swapping out the (hopefully) unintended queer-coding
for extremely intentional gender-coding: [Wyldstyle] “Sounds like a trap. This guy’s a vampire.” [Balthazar] “Attractive non-threatening teen vampire. I like to talk about feelings and how we’re in love, but can’t be together. Isn’t that beautiful? I’ll answer that. It’s very beautiful.” [Unikitty] “The heart wants what it wants. [Balthazar] “I also DJ on the side and wear women’s jeans.” [Unikitty] “Wow!” [Wyldstyle] “Guys we have to stay tough and gritty. Do not let me soften you up — ” “Oh yeah! I love getting barnacles scrubbed out me bell pump. “Really, right into it.” [laughing] “Oh, oh it tickles.” “Whee!” [Batman] “Ah, yeah. I cary my tortured pass in my chiseled gluteus.” The
good guys are “cool rebellious independent” gritty post-apocalyptic “boy toy” recastings
of themselves from the previous film (which in at least one case turns out to be a
plot point but that’s another show…) whereas Queen Whatevera’Wanabi and the Sistar System
aren’t simply a seemingly too-good-to-be-true-so-something-must-be-rotten overly-happy-dystopia – they’re the explicitly
feminized and/or “politically correct” 21st Century version of the type:
Pastels and glitter, Radio Disney-style “corporate pop” music, native-inhabitant characters
that recall the denizens of Adventure Time and Steven Universe, a minifig cameo by Ruth
Bader-Ginsburg and the big “threat” they seem to pose is indeed that the heroes will
be worn down and “sell out” their cool gritty authenticity for cheap, plastic, girly
corporate poptimism. It’s all so familiar and well-observed that
by the time the rescue mission gets there you half expect Rex DangerVest to start ranting
about the pernicity of “Cal-Arts Style.” [singing] “I’m an adult…” …except that the reveal, when we finally
get there, is that there isn’t actually anything bad going on: The Sistar People aren’t
engaged in any brainwashing, the Queen gave all the heroes presents because… she’s
nice and was making a sincere peace offering, she actually likes Batman, the other “changed”
characters changed because they just like being in this different place doing something
new – there’s been no villainy, no alterior motive, no evil, nothing: Emmet and Wyldstyle
just kind of “assumed” there had to be because (by implication) their narrative is
being processed by the imagination of a pre-teen boy whose interpreting it through the lens
of a popular culture where all of these things (as we just discussed) are usually signifiers
of secret villainy. [singing] “I ain’t goina be part of this system.” There is an actual villain – which is
the other big twist and which ends up requiring kind of a big lift on the part of the audience
ie: working out how much of this is taking place on what level of reality in who’s imagination
….but the initial turnaround is actually pretty major when you think about it:
Depicting “tacky” entertainment and art (i.e. pop-music feel-good-PC therapeutic-speak,
new-agey conflict-avoidance, mass-market entertainment, etc) as nightmarish dystopia has been a
default angle for other art and/or entertainment to differentiate itself as the edgy, independent-minded
alternative for a long time… and The Second Part is going for an inverted deconstruction
of the whole concept – which is a hard line to walk when the concept in question is an
extremely useful and well-worn allegory about not trusting the system for a reason. “Don’t trust the system… of elaborate metaphors for not trusting The System”
doesn’t exactly roll off the tongue or the brain stem and yet, though I’d say the jury is still out as to whether or not this is just a little too big of an idea to try and cram into a toy movie. “Hey, actually, there isn’t something
inherently wrong with girly pop-music and reality shows or the whole “poptimist” aesthetic.
Any by the way branding whole swaths of culture as the inherent expression of corporate
villainy is an implicitly dishonest self-serving dodge for bullshit artists
and by the way acting like ‘Selling Out’ is a real thing is something that should’ve died with
the 90s” is… actually a pretty good overdue lesson – even if it is something I never would’ve expected to get from a Lego movie. I’m Bob and that’s The Big Picture.

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  1. Man, I have to watch this movie now. The media I consume is usually rooted in traditional feminine values and selling out, so this is a huge breath of fresh air from all that gritty rogue fare. Thanks for the rec!

  2. Haven't seen it yet but now I absolutely want to. I'm pretty burnt out on the anyone in power is evil cliche. It just seems lazy and disingenuous at a certain point.

  3. "Selling out" ideology dies when creators figure out how to sell up. Target the ones with money and the rest will follow.

  4. OK, this made me WAY more interested in watching this movie now. I mean, on the subject of "why people didn't see it," I just wasn't impressed by the trailers. I figured there would be some sort of meta-narrative going on, but the way the trailers just made it look like "generic adventure rescue movie with LEGOs and Duplos" didn't give me much of a hook. If my experience is in any way representative, the marketing leaned so hard into the tropes they intended to deconstruct that they ended up driving away everyone who's already sick of those tropes.

  5. Hmmm, so you are saying that Lego has produced a movie that concludes that we should not be so untrusting of institutions using the same aesthetics that Lego uses?

  6. I'm almost embarrassed to admit how spot on that movie's depiction of "Sister and Brother" relationship is… The twist I didn't see coming though. Although it did resolve just as it did for me in real life pretty much.

  7. I adored the twists of this actually, it seriously made me happy. That being girly isn't actually evil.
    and the other twist with rex I kind of both saw and was still kinda blown away by.
    And I also loved the other message that wasn't as explicit but still there that you know? You don't have to actually "grow up". You can just enjoy being a kid and enjoying kid things.
    And the credit song XD

  8. You know, the moment I saw the trailers and the Queen I was 99% sure they were going to go this route. And I love it.

    First, as V points out (recycling anarchist wisdom), a revolution without dancing is no revolution at all. If we're not going to create something to replace soulless consumerism, what's the point? Edgelord bullshit isn't inherently better or more authentic, as Bob points out.

    Second, that argument I just made would be much less compelling… *if the system weren't selling edgelord bullshit too*. Mad Max was in theaters. Its aesthetic was gobbled up by countless Italian ripoffs. The 90s Dork Age was one of comics' most financially successful periods. Unless you're watching some broke college did doing performative dance, you're watching corporate or patron art. I'd rather have someone be honest to me that they're selling a product.

    While the Lego Movie does definitely blur the line because it obviously does exist to promote brand integration and identity and sell toys, I still think their point is valid.

  9. I would absolutely love to hear your thoughts on Shyamalan's Eastrail 177 trilogy. Love it or hate it, one cannot deny how incredibly unique and ambitious this trilogy was.

  10. My little one loved it and knows how all her sparkle-ponies and shit drives me nuts. It makes her laugh her little butt off to introduce me to her latest LOL toy acquisition while I smile with gritted teeth—holding in the shrieking. This movie was so apropos on so many levels and my 8-year old…she picked up on it like a boss.

  11. "Hey kids, you know what's super cool? Capitalism! Never question your corporate overlords, they're just trying to be nice to you and don't have any ulterior motives whatsoever. Why do you always have to be such an edgelord, anyway? The whole concept of 'selling out' is sooooo 90s! Don't you remember that Lonely Island song? It's a prefect refutation of any crtiticism you might have! Btw we've color-coded our corporate culture metaphor pink, which means that if you disagree with us, you're a misogynist. Isn't that fun? Remember to buy more LEGO toys!"

  12. Lego movie 2 not making as much at the box office is probably down to how to train your dragon 3 coming out not long before

  13. Sounds like a film made for Bob—no rustled jimmies means no spilled soy lattes. The LEGO movie franchise had nowhere left to go after offering its audience an antiquated, crowd pleasing, “as-you-were” satire of how conformity and manipulation looked 30 years ago. Snake’s not gonna bite its own tail.

  14. Eh, not sure i would call that subversive or even thoughtful today. Sure, if we got that "plot twist" in 80s or 90s, right in the middle of the 'tude era – that would be a twist. But in today's political climate of punching down on men and celebrating women – the "plot twist" of overbearing matriarchal female tyrant seducer being revealed to just be nice and men (and man-ish characters, cough, Wildstyle) being revealed as destructive and "bad" is just… It's par for the course really.

    You know what would count as twist in modern time? If there was a sisterly or motherly feminine nurturing ally who was helping and encouraging heroes from the beginning of the movie and then revealed to be a manipulative snake. And the Lord Business type corporate bigwig man was revealed to be a good guy trying to keep the world from falling apart, by harsh means, when push comes to shove. THAT would be a plot twist. That would be subversive.

  15. yeah kids what’s really cool isnt fighting ‘the system’ it’s liberal capitalism. now play with your legos while I go bomb so brown 3rd worlders.

  16. As fun as the movie was, I can see how it ran with its ideology ahead of entertaining the audience and how it alienated viewers. It had 2 action scenes and four musicals, I get that it's from the sister's POV, but you can't go that heavy on narratives and expect it to be a succesful children's movie.

  17. "There's nothing wrong with reality TV." Yeah… no. It's like calling propaganda news. Sure, there might be some ACTUAL news there, but for the most part, it's complete bullshit. Same with reality TV, there may be a few genuine moments, but the rest is a carefully curated and choreographed alternative to reality. At least when a fictional show makes shit up, you know it's fictional. These self-centered, narcissism as virtue "reality" shows started becoming popular, you started seeing a serious uptick in some very destructive behavior up to and including the election of our first reality TV show president, and a complete break-down in basic decorum in an already laughably broken political system.

  18. you just had ruin it at the beginning by SJWing. wow, you are a fucking ass. the movie by many reviewers said with many good points that movie is "really bad" around a 3.5/10 rating and yet you still pull the SJW shit again and again. i used to love watching your show. now it's SJW pandering to no end. not everyone is a "white man" or even male who thought it was bad and hated the whole SJW, merry sue, and the bull that every dumdass from woman to men pull shit to a movie that is supposed to be fun to watch, to tell a new story, and/or extend the story that can before it.

  19. Hey, look! An actually good Big Picture episode that discussing some actual shit that's worth the brain power and it's own message even!
    The secret is that the lego movie wasn't pretentious or up it's own butt about it's moral superiority, COUGH, COUGH, like Wreck it Ralph 2 and Incredibles 2 was, COUGH, COUGH!
    Honestly, it's nice to see the big, muscly, asshole characters been for once evil, and to be evil cause life tough them the hardest way possible, while the "evil system" look the way it does, cause, it's simply not old enough to know how it should brand it self for his target audience.
    Anyway, The Lego Movie 2 will probably an Oscar candidate next year, and if those sold out asshats in the academy wanna turn this boat around from failsberg int having-some-actual-relevance-avenue, they better nominate it for best script too, cause, the best animated movie nomination is already a given.

  20. Well said. Still not a particularly good movie, but it DID put up a good fight of trying to entertain us, even intellectully.

  21. My theory as to why people weren't lining up to see this is that it was mainly dads/uncles who were excited about the first film and thus hyped for this one. But it's been five (wait… I gotta re-check that. Maaaaan. Yep, FIVE!!?!*%&!) years since then. Which is no time for gen-xers, but the best part of a lifetime the gen-zs who were happy just to see funny, brightly coloured lego men running around in the first film, but are now old enough that they might not even admit to ever having liked it. Which is a shame.

  22. I definitely thought that this movie was not nearly as subtle as the first movie. I’m glad I saw it, but the direction and writing were absolutely not as intelligent or interesting as the first movie, which I would probably call the best written animated film ever made.

  23. The only thing I didn't like about the movie was the joke about Emmit doing nothing in the first movie. I get it, just a joke but it's actually not true.

    Somebody came up with a justification in that the toys from the Sistar system wouldn't have been aware of Emmett's exploits and that this scene was from her perspective. I gueeessss that would technically work. But that's even more convoluted then the movie was. Not to mention unusualy specific and out of place with the rest of the movie.

    I want girls to have there movies and their moments, but I don't think we need to lie to them to do it.

  24. Great episode once again. I have to say it is interesting that this has been released by Warner Bros, who are at the moment shifting their DC films from ultra dark gritty serious stories to more colourful weird fun experiences that audiences are really responding to.

    Just a thought

  25. He didn't even touch on the best line in the entire movie.
    "I'm just a metaphor for the death of imagination in adolescence."
    Like, dude, the balls they'd need to outright climb over the 4th wall and beat you with it. I was laughing and then paused to go, "Oh, shit." Going into the movie I was really curious about what they were going to do with the big reveal from the last movie, that everything is just a representation of what's going on in the real world. So you watch the entire movie through a lens of interpretation and it's actually really well written.

  26. The first Lego movie was about Following Instructions vs Playing Freeform and letting your creativity flourish- but the instructions still exist for a reason.

    Lego movie 2 was… sort of about playing by yourself vs playing collaboratively, that there is no one way to play and you should be open to additional players and the ways they like to play.

    What do you think any 3rd Lego movie there might be would be about? My guess is Licensed Merchandise vs Original Products, I feel there's an important lesson about toys in there that Lego employees can certainly relate to.

  27. This felt like a small point of a much larger argument, like when you're walking down the hall with your friend and have to part ways prematurely because you've reached your classroom; I wasn't paying attention to the time and expected this video to keep going after the 9 minute mark.

  28. So…the message of the sequel to a feature length toy commercial is that corporate-packaged, happy-shiny, materialistic conformity is a good thing and we should all just relax and stop thinking about it so much.

    And…you thought this was a bold new message for the modern era?

    I like both lego movies, but let's not go reading more into them than what's there. The movie's message is "get along with your siblings" and "buy legos", not some deep meta-commentary on modern cinema tropes.

  29. Lego is actually subverting their own BS here. Take a look at the marketing over the decades.

    Long, long ago they were building bricks for everyone, boys and girls playing together, but they eventually became "boy" toys. They produced some girl-targeted toys, but they ranged from terrible to creepy.

    Eventually the girls started getting some good sets (Friends, Elves) but they were still heavily gendered. They were in the pink aisle. But they've very slowly been introducing more neutral sets.

    At the same time you see the brother and sister making up and playing together, you see the Lego Movie 2 sets on the shelves doing the same. For the first time ever, traditional minifigs are appearing in the same sets as Friends-style mini-dolls. And they're pretty good sets.

    The toys are crossing over, and the movie is an entertaining commercial saying, "yes, it's OK, buy these!"

  30. Jesus Christ, Bob. Seriously, how many times do you have to unironically condemn man babies on the internet obsessing over movies before it dawns on you, 200+ million dollar budgeted blockbuster movies squeezed out by faux progressive major corporations are not a hill worth dying on. Your compulsive need to defend these relentlessly mediocre project reeks of generation-x 'woke-ness', like an uncool uncle quizzing you about whether pewdiepie is really a nazi at thanksgiving dinner. Live your own life. Goddamn.

  31. I think this video helps me understand why I didn't really like this movie. Everything about the sistar system, whilst stated at the end to not be threatening, still carries something unsettling. I didn't like the way that the characters were robbed of their individual identities to fit into a conformist glittery aesthetic. That's not to say that the gritty aesthetic was any better mind you, but just switching from one conformist ideal to another felt problematic and unsatisfying as an overall resolution. I think the biggest thing that highlights this is the song 'Gotham City Guys' in which the queen manipulates Batman into marrying her by playing on his insecurities. They do not fall in love in a natural way, she just uses manipulative tactics to get him in a toxic way, then she makes him change for her but doesn't herself change one bit for him – basically the same problem that I have with the ending of Grease but with the gender roles swapped. The message of the movie should not have been "just go with your sister's way, there's nothing wrong with it" and instead should've explored how they might instead compromise and find some middle ground where the individuality and identity of the characters remained intact but the two worlds could get along with each other where they couldn't before.

  32. Not sure how I feel about the big groundbreaking message of a giant toy advert being "its okay to love the corporate dystopia"…..

  33. I thought the movie was gonna critisize at least some aspects of the overly edgy dramatization that 2010 films brought. I can actually see movies bouncing back to color and fun again, as if the dark tones of films, a gritty satirization that laughed at all the aloof stories we loved somehow became equally ridiculous and boring.

  34. I have yet to see the second movie and I don't really have a want to watch it. After this vid I may watch it, but the franchise really turned me off after that ninja thing.

  35. So wait wait wait, back it up here. HOW exactly did he manage to link Lego Movie's numbers into complaining about Capt Marvel backlash? It was hard to keep-up with his Yahtzee-esque rambling during that part and I don't feel like going back to re-absorb the cringe.

  36. Sooooooooo, thanks to this movie Bob now, likes Ariana Grande's music? Anyway I'm kinda sick n' tired of Lego no longer being its own thing and having to relying on franchise crossover to remain relevant. Who wants to call me an "entitled manbaby" for not conforming, I know that's the automatic response for any expressed ambivalence.

  37. I'd like to note that I feel like this one was less well-marketed than the first. I work in a store that plays Cartoon Network pretty frequently, and I didn't see ANY ads for it in December, and was entirely surprised to learn that it HAD launched.

    Or maybe it's not that it was less marketed, but that they were victims of their own success: the first Lego movie was such a strange new approach to a film that there was a ton of free advertising in people talking about "what the heck is this going to be like?" and so on. And then it did well, and Lego Batman did well, and now Lego movies are just a thing, so the advertising didn't stick out as interesting.

  38. I was hella impressed with LM1, but as much as I like this message (coded girly≠evil, pop art ≥ "edgy" art), the fact that the movie IS made by the corporations that would benefit from that attitude gives it a background radiation of "gross" for me. Add that to all the personalisation of brand aesthetic (twitter et al) and it's starting to gimme the big ol' creeps.

    DOWN WITH THE PINK AISLE THO X

  39. Wow, how butthurt is bob that most people don't like the Captain Marvel movie?
    Sure it made money its a marvel movie.
    No, it's not one of the better ones.
    Does make me a "Man Cry baby"?
    Is it funny how Bob is attacking people through their gender?

  40. Honestly, I loved the twist in this movie as its far more profound. My only gripe is that it doesn't have the same amount of "Heart" the first one did. Venturing into spoiler territory, not everyone grew up with siblings or at least siblings who they clashed with constantly so the feels won't hit them as hard as the first movie's big moment where its about a kid trying to get their parent to not disregard their point of view and connect with them as most people in the world can understand wanting their parent's love, affection and understanding. But its a movie totally worth seeing and its a shame it didn't make as big a splash as the first or Lego Batman.

  41. Kind of off topic, but after both this and "Into the Spider-verse," I really wish Lord and Miller had been given creative freedom to make whatever Han Solo movie they wanted.

  42. I liked Rex, I didn’t like that he turned out to be the bad guy. They should have made him more of a dick.

  43. Thanks for the spoiler warming I didn't see it and forgot about it. So after a 24 hour delay and one enjoyable movie. i can now watch this.

  44. Huh. Should give this a watch. YMS made this movie out to be a hollow sequel that lacked the intelligence of the original

  45. SPOILER HOLY CRAP IF YOU HAVENT SEEN THE MOVIE PLEASE SEE IT AND DON'T READ THIS COMMENT

    okay so the sistar system is revealed to NOT be evil but also WTH is with the scene of Queen Whatevra Wannabi using the Fabuland minifigures as actual slaves? Like its a scene meant to convince the viewer that the heroes are fighting a truly evil force but in the end they never say anything about it

  46. Zack Snyder's Superman sucks because Zack Snyder is incapable of believing that someone as pure as Superman could exists. Maybe this movie can reminds us that being nice is not always "a trick".

  47. 1 minute to Insult people for arguments you still don't understand, you did so well last week Bob. I hoped you were getting better.

  48. So the dystopian society in which aliens kidnap people and then enforce their political and social beliefs… Is a good thing?? Maybe this movie should have just focused on sibling relationship and how different boys and girls are, sending a message that neither side should force the other to change?

    I'm just rambling at this point, the first movie was better imo

  49. When I hear music in a movie trailer that heavily features clapping I immediately tune out. It's like a damned reflex and I would find it hard to believe that I'm the only one. x_x

  50. This movie is fantastic I missed it in the theatres I'm sad to see that it really didnt perform aswell as the first movie… so disappointed we might not see another movie in this franchise

  51. I just watched the second movie on DVD and I really liked it. I kind of feel bad for not seeing it in theaters, but better late than never.

  52. Bob the boy in the movie isn't a raging anti-feminist, he's a young boy who probably thinks girls are icky and cooties are real. So he just thinks his sister is weird and doesn't like the stuff she likes. That's probably everything that needs to be explained here.

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