Film Theory: How NOT To Train Your Dragon! (How To Train Your Dragon)

Film Theory: How NOT To Train Your Dragon! (How To Train Your Dragon)


Wiki How to Train Your Dragon, alright. Step 1: Live in a world with dragons. Glad to hear they’re starting with the essentials. Step 2: Almost kill a dragon. Wouldn’t seem to engender a lot of loyalty to me, but okay! Step 3: Wait until the dragon develops Stockholm Syndrome?! I should know better than to trust Wikihow, maybe the movie has better advice… *Film Theory theme* Hello internet! Welcome to Film Theory! Hey, Hollywood? We need some new franchises in theaters! Alright? I mean, just look at the film lineup for the rest of 2019: A reboot of “Men In Black”, remakes of “Dumbo”, “Aladdin” and “The Lion King”, and sequels to “The Avengers”, “Spiderman”, “Star Wars”, “Jumanji”, “Rambo”, “Terminator”, “Fast & Furious”, “Frozen”, “Angry Birds”, “Toy Story”, and “The Secret Life of Pets”! It’s like horror films don’t scare Hollywood executives, Their actual nightmare is creating new and creative screenplays! Cue the airhorn, because that was a sick but predictable burn! *Airhorns* One such sequel that premiered earlier this year was “How to Train Your Dragon”. Now, this is a franchise we’ve never covered here, mostly because I’d never seen the movies up until recently. But having just caught up with the franchise after a few really long flights, I’m finally sinking my teeth into these tales of Toothless, by addressing the biggest question that comes out of the whole theatrical empire: Not “Could dragons exist?” No, not “How do massive lizards fly?”. It is way more obvious than that! Today, I am gonna answer the question of “How do you train your dragon?” And the answer is… not like you see in the movie! I mean, I know the movie makes it seem all magical and heartwarming, but when you look at the realities of what’s actually going on on screen, the entire premise goes up in flames. You should NOT train your dragon. I’m not talking about “Oh, dragon training would be dangerous, because they’ll eat you and they’ll burn you with their hot fire!” No, the entire concept of training your dragon is simply broken at a fundamental level, and you definitely shouldn’t do it the way that Hiccup does in the movies. So saddle up, Vikings of questionable geographic origin! “Are you sure you want that kid running the village?” It is time to theorize! For anyone was like me and missed out on this franchise, here’s basically what you need to know for today’s theory. Hiccup lives on the island of Berk with his father, the chief. Berk is prone to frequent dragon attacks. So, like most people being tormented by a species of wild animals, they fight back. In one of the dragon attacks, Hiccup injures an elusive Night Fury dragon that he eventually names Toothless, and befriends. Over the course of the film through his interactions with Toothless, Hiccup learns that dragons are really just glorified cats, that can be won over with beams of light, chin scratches and dragon-nip! Children in Berk’s society have to undergo a process known as “dragon training” “I’ve decided I don’t wanna fight dragons.” “I think it’s time you learned to fight dragons.” “You go first.” “You get your wish. Dragon training, you start in the morning.” “Oh man, I should have gone first.” And Hiccup skyrockets in popularity, as his tactics serve as a non-violent model to follow for the rest of the village. By the end of the film, everyone in the village has their own pet dragon, completely forgetting that these are enormous deadly wild creatures, who were literally at their throats only a few hours before. Sure, they were being mind-controlled by a giant dragon overlord, but still, you’ve been fighting these things for generations and now you’re like, “Oh, look at how cute they are!” No! Stupid! Bad idea! And this episode’s gonna tell you why. Now, let’s make one thing clear: By the end of the movie, what we see aren’t trained dragons, they’re domesticated. Dragons. That may seem like a minor point, but it’s actually a huge difference. You see in the real world, we use a lot of words about animals interchangeably that aren’t really the same at all, and when it comes to training a dragon, the difference between words like “train” and “domesticate” is the difference between getting you the world’s most awesome pet, and you getting personally barbecued to death. So let’s get our definitions straight. To tame an animal is to take an individual wild animal and make that specific animal not afraid of you as a human. To train an animal is to get it to repeatedly follow a command. You blow a whistle, your dog sits. To domesticate an animal is the most intense of these three, and requires fundamentally altering the species over many generations via selective breeding. Basically transforming it to behave the way that humans want. So today we’re gonna address the possibility of all three, but specifically focus on training. Since you know, that’s the title of the movie. Now Hiccup, for all his supposed dragon knowledge, is not the example of proper training that the people of Berk should be following. What he does is dangerous, destructive and worst of all, inhumane. Now that may sound extreme, until you take a second look at the events of this film, without all the sappy feel-good music. What happens to kick off this entire movie? Hiccup injures Toothless, wrecking his tail flap, an injury that completely grounds Tootless. I meant Toothless not Tootless. Not a dragon without farts. So we are starting the relationship with a critical injury, and then it proceeds to get even worse. Hiccup moves on to reconstruct a new tail piece for Toothless, and while it’s all real nice and good that he works so gosh darn hard on it, it was repairing an injury that was his own fault. And as soon as that tail piece is on, guess what Toothless does? Does he turn around and thank Hiccup? Does he tearfully tell him that he’ll miss their companionship? No, he flies away! He tries to escape the human predator! Like a wild animal should and would do in that moment. But even then, Hiccup can’t leave well enough alone, because he hangs on through the air, and discovers super conveniently that the dragon can only fly if he – Master Human is controlling the prosthetic tail piece. Just think about that for a second. This would be like clipping a bird’s wings and replacing its wing tips with remote-control wing tips, so we could fly them around like a model airplane. When you really think about what’s going on here, to a wild animal who’s scared and injured, it would be immediately classified as animal cruelty, or at the very least, a pretty barbaric way to get a big animal to do what you want. And Hiccup sees no problem here. In fact, he spends most of his time riding Toothless around, congratulating himself about how amazing he is. “Yes!” “Yes, I did it!” After that, he goes on to chase down the dragon to get a saddle on it, again not voluntary since Toothless will literally die if he can’t fly. Then he has to integrate all kinds of reins and turning systems to control the dragon, instead of rigging a system where, you know, Toothless could control it himself. Hiccup doesn’t design or even attempt to design, something that would allow Toothless to fly independently, until the short film “Gift of the Night Fury”. And even then he still has systems in place that allow him to maintain control. It’s like saying to your dog, “I love you, as long as I still have the ability to shock collar you!” It’s only in the third and final film that Hiccup finally respects this animal enough, that he designs something that makes him completely independent. Meanwhile, every time Hiccup falls, Toothless crashes headfirst into the ground at full speed, or directly into cliff faces. Even when his control system works, and Hiccup is managing to navigate, think about what’s happening here. Sure, it looks epic, and they’re working like a team, but in reality, this dragon is a helpless passenger in his own body. He is a slave and no matter how many times it happens, he only has one choice but to keep going, because again, a dragon that can’t fly is a dead dragon. The long story short here is that whether he had good intentions or no, Hiccup used force to train his dragon. He stripped away its independence and Toothless was required to submit to him. So what should Hiccup have done to train his dragon? Well, it comes as no great surprise to anyone that it would, at the very least, be a lot harder to train a gigantic lizard than it looks like here. But is there any world where this is possible? Using anything even remotely like the real methods of animal training, could you train your dragon? Maybe there’s a way that this story could have turned out better. Maybe we call it: “Film Theory’s Guide To How To Actually Train Your Dragon”. It’s… catchy…? Maybe it just needs an acronym – F.T.G.H.T.A.T.Y.D.! *Crowd cheers* So let’s look at what Hiccup should have done if he were actually training a dragon, or any kind of reptile that even remotely resembles a dragon, because I want to give him a fighting chance here. Referring to reputable zoo and reptile resource guides, the F.T.G.H.T.A.T.Y.D. immediately encounters a few issues, other than its terrible name. Because in most places you look that respond to the question of “How do I train my reptile?”, they answer with “Ehhhhh… you don’t.” To quote Safer Pets, an online resource about training and caring for exotic animals: “First it’s important for you to realize that your pet lizard will never be like a dog – or even a cat.” “You will never be able to have the same level of interactions and trick training as with a pet dog.” “If this is what you’re after, then you might be better to consider a different sort of pet.” Maybe not with that attitude, Safer Pets! No, but seriously, why are they so negative towards this whole thing? Is it just that we haven’t spent the last few millennia domesticating our local crocodiles, and that’s why they’re not willing to play fetch? Well, no. It turns out that the problem with training your dragon, or any other reptile, starts with the brain. Have you ever heard anyone refer to their “lizard brain”? You usually use the phrase when you’re referring to some impulse decision, or reaction that you just can’t control, like your involuntary reaction to a jump-scare in a horror movie, or how I seem to eat the entire box of Springtime Oreos before I even realize it. Every single spring! They’re the basic Oreos, but I still am like, “Ah, they’re yellow frosted! Great!” These are all primal reactions. It tastes good, so eat it. It’s scary, so run away. These “lizard brain” actions are controlled by the three most primal areas of our brain: The brain stem; the cerebellum, and the basal ganglia, which aptly enough, are the same areas of the brain we share with lizards, including reptiles. Reptile brains are just much smaller than mammal brains relative to body size, because they only need to have these three areas. For reference, a saltwater crocodile and a horse have almost identical weight ranges, from 800 to 2200 pounds. A crocodile brain weighs in at about 8.4 to 15 grams, while a horse’s brain weighs in at 530-655 grams. So why are their brains so much bigger? Well, humans and other mammals, like dogs and cats, have other areas of the brain layered on top of those primal areas called the limbic system, which allow us to have more complex emotions, like how dogs experience excitement to see their owners, or depression when they’re abandoned. The limbic system also enables us to develop trust and behavioural pattern recognition, that allows us to train and be trained. Reptiles literally don’t have the parts of the brain necessary to develop relationships with humans. Their brains are missing the emotional cognition to be trained to do the types of tricks that you see in “How to Train Your Dragon”. “No, come on!” I hear you saying, “There’s videos on YouTube of people training lizards, like Komodo dragons, duh!” “They even have “dragon” in their name!” But that kind of lizard training looks very different than training a cat and a dog. The most advanced dragon trainers in the world, who work with big lizards like Komodo dragons, can only train them to do what’s known as “target practice”. Lifting a rifle onto their shoulder and shooting at a target downrange. I just did that to see if you were paying attention. No, you cannot train your lizard to shoot a gun. Target practice here means basically, classical conditioning for your dinner. Instead of throwing some mice, or other animals into the reptiles habitat, trainers take a target, basically a ball or a plate on a stick into the enclosure, and train the reptile to touch the target in order to get it’s food. That’s it. Like that is the level of training that you can do for your dragon. The end. Biologically speaking, it is impossible to do much more than that, and the reason trainers typically even bother doing this is to help move reptiles to different areas of their enclosure, to receive things like medical care, or give them exercise. Not become helpful pets, or even show off for the zoo visitors. Reptiles in captivity are known for being lazy and lethargic, because they don’t have to defend their territory anymore. Their lizard brain is no longer needed for survival, so the only way to get them appropriate activity is to get them to work for their food. Even the crocodile hunter himself, Steve Irwin, describes using himself as bait in crocodile enclosures, so the crocs would regain their sense of territorialism and fend him off to get their blood pumping. This is a very rudimentary form of training, and it certainly isn’t for fun. It’s because to keep the reptiles healthy, they have to use their instincts, because that’s the only thinking that they’re capable of doing. Anything you train a reptile to do isn’t them being loyal to you, it’s just them using an instinct. All that said, for all you reptilian apologists out there, it’s important to understand the difference between intelligence and emotional complexity. Reptiles are extremely smart, so just because they’re not emotionally capable doesn’t mean they’re not capable-capable. They have memories that span almost their whole lifetime, and big reptiles like alligators can navigate 30 – 40 miles of waterways easily from when they’re born. Which can be said for basically none of us who are working on or watching this video, because human babies are virtually useless. Reptiles are also pretty much the kings of Darwinism, where a lot of female reptiles will only give the green light, so to speak, to the biggest strongest male in their area, meaning that the only genes that get passed down are from the very best of their species. But we as humans who don’t really care about that, and instead just want a cuddly iguana, can’t mistake all of that for love or loyalty, or trust, or any of the emotions that we hope to get out of a real pet. Reptiles still aren’t domesticated after all these millennia. But that means that whether you’re adopting a Dragon from the wild, or you’re picking up a Chameleon at the pet store, (Literally the pet that I’ve wanted all throughout elementary school), you are adopting the equivalent of a wild animal. So how do you train your dragon? 1.You set realistic expectations that you won’t ever have a true relationship with them, 2. You beat them around an enclosure to give them lots of exercise, and 3. You appreciate that they’re instinctually way smarter than us, but don’t know how to brag about it. Relationships just don’t figure into that equation. Which is a real bummer, because it would be totally amazing to ride your alligator in Florida, or watch your basilisk lizard skip across your bathtub. But at the end of the day, you cannot train your dragon, which means that the F.T.G.H.T.A.T.Y.D. is finished. And that means back to the drawing board for me. The dragon circus… No. Kangaroo best friend- a kangaroo can be your best friend! Yes, and away! But before I go, remember! That is just a theory- a Film Theory! Aaaaand cut!

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  1. 6:53
    @TheFilmTheorists
    If he watched the mini movies (the dragons riders of berk) it is foung that hiccup creates that independent tail thing earlier on, much earlier on

  2. Yo, argument, Dragons aren’t lizards and are actually relatives of dinosaurs. They should have feather like quills and act much like pteranodons

  3. So when you're talking about the lizard brain, and how they just act on instincts, Jurassic World's raptor training is complete T-rex dung?

  4. Have you seen the series of how to train your dragon rise of Berk/defenders of Berk and race to the edge (P.S this is not the order kind)

  5. Matpat: They are basically oversized, flying cats.

    Also Matpat: They are lizards! They could never have a relationship to you like this CAT I put on screen.

  6. Ok sorry this is 6 months late, but my family JUST got around to watching HTTYD3, as it’s so hard to get my family to agree on anything to watch.

    Anyways, I thought the intro was a hilarious oversimplification of the movie. You know, good for laughs. And then I realized you were serious.

    I mean, I LOVE your videos but you obviously weren’t paying attention in:
    Gift of the Night Fury
    The shows
    The movies
    LITERALLY ALL HTTYD CONTENT

    Seriously MatPat, most of your videos are cool, but this GROSSLY misrepresents the events and characters of the movies.

    The dragons DO have emotions, and they DO show a remarkable ability to feel.
    I dunno, maybe I’m just crazy, but perhaps the fact that they LITERALLY HAVE WINGS AND BREATHE FIRE shows you that they’ve evolved further than your basic reptile. Mammals evolved from reptiles, and we have emotions, so maybe, just MAYBE we can go with what the MOVIES IN QUESTION SHOW instead of random assumptions based on the fact that they have scales?

    Also I’m pretty sure you didn’t watch the shows, specifically Riders of Berk, which addresses many of your problems with how he DOES train them.

  7. Matpat, let me make this perfectly clear. You can not biologically compare a fantasy creature like a dragon that shows high intelligence and breathes fire to a two ton lizard with a tiny brain. We live in two very distinct universes with vast contrasting factors like how fast a 50 ton plan flies to a lizard with wings

    Sure you could compare instincts, life span, and basic biology but other than that we truly can’t say it’s an impossibility. Not unless you can dissect a Httyd dragon to see what’s what. Don’t be so quick to shoot it down.

  8. Well, here's something to debunk this whole theory!
    And it has nothing to do with Hiccup fixing his mistake.
    Hollywood purposely makes animals dog/cat-like to make them appear cuter on tv.
    I mean if DreamWorks made the dragons more lizard-like then the movie would be very, very, VERY different.
    So to clarify, Hiccup isn't an animal abuser (as he stopped his entire village from attacking the dragons) and the dragons were made to be more like a cat/dog.

  9. I Swear, If I See A Cat I Would Reach My Hand At The Cat Just Like Hiccup Did, AND IT ALWAYS (But Like Not Always But A Lot Of Times) WORKS, The Cat Even Did the head push thingy

  10. Not to offend anyone but I think he was lazy with this one, as this is based on how reptiles cant show emotion, yet the dragons do show emotion in the movies and tv shows that are cannon

  11. Im so mad I got half way through the video and then he starts talking about the 3 movie and I have to stop the video because I haven't seen the 3 movie :'(

  12. I want to have a theory on how big the dragon world actually is because dragons probably are faster than airplanes and we have explored most of our world so if this is true then isn't the dragon world much bigger than ours

  13. Dragons can fly, that means they are as developed as dinosaurs, and it was suggested that some of them were social.

    Maybe they are closer to a bird in intelligence.
    "Lizard greets man like a dog" video out there to show… something
    ?

  14. but matpat i see that if my bearded dragon dosent fell a relationship with me how does it then sleep the whole time im not with it but when i come home it starts waking up walking around climbing its glass to get out and see me

  15. What if dragons are more similar to dinosaurs than modern reptiles? It would at least give them different capabilities. Your whole theory relies on dragons being a reptile, but what if they aren’t?

  16. 1 dragon brains are complex even though its not scientifically proven though its just stupid to think lizards and dragons have da same brain its not like in the mokeys brain is jst like a human brain just like humans dragons can do more its just like an upgraded version of da dragon i mean dragons dont neassesarlily just do what lizards do just like mokeys cant make computers plus da movei is fictional and either way if a dragon did exist in the world it would be extinct it da next 2 decade by human influences i mean its not like a freakingdragon would suddenly come out of da ocean

    what im saying is if though its not true its npo use conparing it in rl cuz yea da second they get out of there hole there ganan be in another one

    tbh idk why im doing dis even though it irelavent im just killing time btw sorry for bad grammer english aint my fluent laguage or something along that line im not used to spake in english

  17. Omg. I just realised, you may not be wrong. In the short film The Gift Of The Night Fury, Toothless greatly desires to go with the other dragons and fly independently. But when Hiccup gives him the tail which allows him to fly independently, Toothless is out for a few days before coming back, and when he finally comes back, Toothless can’t bear to wear the tail that gave him his freedom and independence. Now you could say it was a symbol of their friendship… but… why? If Toothless has that friendship then it shouldn’t matter if he is able to come and go independently. The answer? While Toothless was out searching for a mate, he was doing so in the heat of the excitement of the possibility of finding another mate. But once Toothless eventually gave up, the excitement was gone, and then the Stockholm symptoms started to kick in. Toothless’s Stockholm syndrome symptoms (and yes in no doubt a hint of friendship) started to kick in, and Toothless had no desires or feelings but the anxiety he felt being away from Hiccup.

    This Stockholm syndrome started to lessen over time, especially after Toothless’s first experience being free again in Gift of the Night Fury.

    I don’t think Hiccup ever intentionally caused this Stockholm syndrome to happen. Bear in mind, that prior to meeting Toothless, Hiccup was known as the village loser, he was good for nothing, he couldn’t fight, but then his insight into inventions and, combined with the bucketload of teenage hormones, caused him to vastly overlook the creature’s deeper and less explicit needs.

    If you watch the movies and TV show in this light, you’ll start to notice that as time goes on Toothless becomes more and more okay with spending time away from Hiccup. This is him healing from accidentally-caused Stockholm syndrome.

  18. *MATPAT, YOU ARE NOT WRONG, BUT I DON’T THINK HICCUP INTENTIONALLY CAUSED TOOTHLESS TO GET STOCKHOLM SYNDROME.
    I think this was all caused by the heat of Hiccup finally feeling like his life has purpose, combined with teenage hormones, plus being constantly distracted with his inventions, trying to do what he thinks is helping the dragon, while overlooking its needs. Hiccup, also without realising it due to a lack of self-awareness in teens, overlooked a true prosthetic due to the fear of losing the only thing that he felt gave his life value and meaning; toothless, inventions, dragons and flying. Hiccup did this all with the best of intents.

    *So you are not ENTIRELY wrong, but you don’t need to evilize Hiccup. He was just a hormonal teenager trying to do his best with what he had. Unfortunately he’d also been the butt of the village for gods know how long, and was desperate to prove himself to himself like any other teenage boy.

  19. 8:50 MATT! MATT! MATT!
    I’m sorry, but on this theory about dragons’ brains, you have kind of worked your way into a hole. Here’s why:

    DRAGONS, ARE FLYING animals – They would be adapted to fly at high altitudes in lower oxygen concentrations and COLD TEMPERATURES , cold-blooded animals, such as your everyday lizards and snakes, are very sluggish in these environments.
    Therefore:
    DRAGONS travel around, A LOT, over seas, islands, oceans, usually in flocks to hunt, fish or migrate in general – Therefore they have to have developed the same pack mentality that is common in birds of prey, wolves, wild cats or all of the above.*

    Not to mention the pure fact that these dragons were based off a mix of birds, cats, mammals and insects. Even the way they behave constantly contradicts everything you claim to know about their brains and biology. Comparing them to reptiles is just *WRONG , especially in this context of all places you could’ve done it.
    Mattpatt… just… Why?

  20. I am a dragon trainer! I have two beutiful feathered dragons named Cheif and Yang

    Edit: i know theres alot of feathered dragons, they are Melopsittacus Undulatus (if you dont know what they are, look it up)

  21. When it means a dragon that can’t fly is a dead dragon
    They mean that if it can’t fly Vikings can easily kill it

  22. Have you read the books? They are very different from the films, except the names and that they are also about dragons and vikings. They are excellent and although they do have reptiles with mammal brains (we assume, following this video) you will find the ethical problems you talk about here addressed; in fact, they are key to the whole series.

  23. Yeah but in the movies the dragons have shown emotions so we could say the same thing about dinosaurs thier big birds

  24. How about because these are fictional creatures mabeye they actually do have the ability to develop emotion, because it's never addressed in the HTTYD universe and these things don't exist IRL.

  25. Are we really arguing for self determination and the right of choice for a fictional animal who is also fictional in the real world? Matpat this is too much.

  26. Yes I agree but a dragon could also be a mix of so many other things. How do we know a dragons brain in just like a lizards or snakes ect brain? Yes they call dragons reptiles but dragons also have the ability to breath and shoot fire or in toothes case turn in invisible using lightning. Again I agree to some extent but we also have to take into account that dragons could be a mix of so may other species. Idk just a thought

  27. Ah, but you didn't read the source material. I recommend listening to the How to Train your Dragon audio book. David Tennant rules as the narrator.
    Dragons in the book are much more sapient.
    And you forgot that dragons in the movie might be more evolved, showing characteristics associated with birds. They might not have cat level social abilities but they should at least have the IQ of a hawk.

  28. It’s a fantasy world and they’re dragons, not lizards. It’s been said before but he was doing what his whole society was doing. They hunted dragons. The movie made dragons out to be more like dogs. They fetched, rolled over, and showed emotions. But my biggest problem with your theory is that you think he built the wing to only be controlled by him to keep Toothless helpless and his pet. Did it ever occur to you that the technology wasn’t around in the first movie to make it an independently operated piece of equipment? Even in the third one he had to build a prototype and test it and fix the problems. It was a mutually beneficial relationship until he realized it was no longer beneficial to the dragons. So he did was needed to be done so they could leave. And spoiler alert years later when he goes to visit Toothless, it was a happy reunion and they were able to reconnect then go their separate ways. Your theory is wrong.

  29. Mkay but dragons are obviously bigger and more developed with wings so we can assume they would be smarter. But then they would only be more careful around us so that would make it harder but possible. I want a part 2 considering more intellectualy capable dragons with developed brains and compassion.

  30. I have a book "How to train your dragon" years before first movie ever existed. Story was completely different. There are no "war" with dragons. There was a Viking clan, which "train" dragons for generations. The process was: 1. Around 12-14 (don't remember correctly), you become a man a must get a dragon.
    2. Group of "future mans" sent to dragon nest to stole a dragon eggs. (Type of dragon u get determined your future clan status much).
    3. Hatch an egg, newborn dragon will imprint u as a parent. Or steal an infant.
    4. Train your dragon through scream, beating ect. (Clan motto – dragons are dumb, understands only fear & power).
    5. After a year, finish a trial to prove your accomplishment. Became a full-pleged clan warrior. Or failed miserably & get exiled to wilderness with your dragon-failure. Thats it.
    Dragon in clan mostly used as hunting dogs. Aslo as food and leather if dragon outgrown trainer of don't behave (didn't happen much, it was only mentioned in the book).
    Note: Dragons are intelligent, they have their own language, etiquette ect. They are also egoistic assholes, all of them, no exceptions. They annoyed by humans, but they didn't want to be beaten or killed (if they escaped, they became an easy prey to any wild dragon). Most of clan dragons is no larger as a horse. Clan dragons often bully each other.
    Hiccup is a chief son, and future next chief. He was also a skinny geek with glasses. He was bullied by other kids because he was a geek, helping mother to washing, cleaning, cooking. He also have a fatty friend. Hiccup noticed how fathers dragons talk to each other and learned that language.
    On nest-raid he try to steal a garden dragon egg, but failed miserably. While escaping from ravaged dragons (all group), Hiccup grabs the first infant he sees. Later he & his father discovered that that dragon was size as cat, light green & toothless. Hiccup friend is lied that is normal for Legend Sky Ruler Dragon & Hiccup don't get punished. Hiccup decided that he was train Toothless by talking, bargain & love.
    Toothless was an asshole, he shit in house, on Hiccup, he destroy stuff ect. He only start to play along, when he was bullied & injured by other clan dragons. He was learn to fly, month before trial. Then he started a fight on trials & get everyone exiled.
    Teenagers was saved by 2 elder dragons event & got restored as clan warriors.
    I put away some details, read the book its good. Book events= 1 movie event, 2-3 movie is completely AU.

  31. Ok I love this video you make but that right there is a big no no like for real that's my childhood so that's a big good no no yeah sure he wanted to escape but then they got along like (friends) see there friends so yeah away you go man away you go.

  32. Well… Why did You assumed that dragons are lizards? They may be simillar in looks, but it seems they are intelligent… and have 6 limbs (4 legs + 2 wings), have You ever seen 6-limb reptiles? So maybe… just maybe… those dragons are not lizards? So perhaps they can be trained?

  33. This would be a good point except that if you dig into the little Facts about how to train your Dragon you discover that a) the sum species of dragon are much smarter than humans and b) they make it vary Clear that dragons are not reptiles all so you sed lizards that are also reptiles Of reptiles that are also lizards

  34. Dragons and lizards have different brains. How else could they be controlled my the red death. But that would be funny to see a lizard trying too steal food LOL

  35. In the Movie the dragons have a closer intelligence level to wild big cats not so much lizards, so using irl lizards isn't as of a good Idea as comparing them to say, A panther or tiger or something similar.
    I think It would be Super Cool if you did a remake of this theory using a different animal instead.

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  37. If its animal cruelty, than why did toothless NOT like the auto tail in the gift of the night fury? In the 3rd one, Hiccup Technically said he didnt have a reason to make the first one, but on the second one YES because he is on a date!

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  38. Weeeeeeeell, you know that in the Christmas movie, Hiccup makes a tail that toothless can control and later he destroys it, to use the controlled one

  39. As an extreme nerd of HTTYD I don’t think Matpat has any right to rant about it like this. There are so many shows and other canon material he is missing out on. Plus dragons are not lizards. There is such a thing as intelligence. Sure there are dragons that don’t have brains that are particularly smart like Terrible Terrors, but there are some species that are just as intelligent as humans like the Night Fury (the dragon with the highest known intellect) and the Skrill.

  40. There was a second short film about Christmas where hiccup makes Toothless a tail that toothless can control but toothless destroys it

  41. Umm…that’s not really “Animal Cruelty” what Hiccup did?…he did it because Toothless wouldn’t survive without being able to fly. And in order to fly, OF COURSE Hiccup HAS to help him but “controlling” his tail, because that’s the only way it’ll work properly; by using the controls on the pedal to change the shape and pitch of the tail to compensate drafts and wind reduction. He also feeds him and bows down to Toothless to let him set the tone to their relationship. Not to mention, he loves dragons, which was noted so many times in the film.

  42. Is it “cruel” to mess up and realize you did, then try to care for an animal that you realized that you caused it pain based on spur of the moment/emotion?

  43. Matpat:says hiccup is torturing toothless.
    Hiccup: tries to make a tail to let toothless fly on his own during the second movie for no reason other than to help him.

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