Film Theory: Is Luke EVIL in Star Wars: The Force Awakens?

Film Theory: Is Luke EVIL in Star Wars: The Force Awakens?


(Non-copyrighted Star Wars Theme) (Film Theorists Theme) Hello internet! Welcome to Film Theory,
looking for love in alderaan places. (laser blast and explosion) Recently my friends over at Screen
Rant did a video on their top 10 movie theories that change everything. My theories didn’t make the cut, apparently. Come on guys Neo not being the One, Ant-Man destroying the planet? (sighs) What do you expect of me? Well, today I have one that they can’t ignore. Get ready, so Star Wars I can’t think of
a single other film franchise that has had the impact that Star Wars has had on
popular culture. Then there were the prequels that took that
legacy and flushed it down the toilet faster than you can say Jar Jar Binks.
(sighs) Actually don’t say Jar Jar Binks, it makes everyone squirm but now there’s
another, a New Hope, or I guess a new new hope, Star Wars
The Force Awakens and with it all the hype and speculation you could ask for
and as you loyal theorists know where there’s over analysis to be had follow it we will. That wasn’t even close
to Yoda. That said and all the excitement around each new trailer
release, something the internet’s noticed with The Force Awakens is actually
what’s not in them. Between all the nostalgic imagery, the Stormtroopers and
X-Wings, the lightsabers and Han Solo himself, something or rather someone
important seems to have been completely omitted, Luke Skywalker, the original
protagonist of the Star Wars franchise. Mark Hamill has definitely been cast this movie. His return, along with Carrie Fisher and
Harrison Ford’s, was a huge selling point for this film early on and yet when
pressed on the subject director JJ Abrams himself has said that Luke’s
absence from the marketing material for the film has been quote no accident and
Mark Hamill himself has said he’s keeping a secret that if revealed would
cost him a ton of money. I don’t know about you, but to me it
seems like something is clearly a foot. Obviously, this has set the internet
ablaze with wild theories about the fate of the
final Jedi and the plot of the new film but today we’re uncovering the truth
before it airs in theaters. In an effort to save you your hard-earned popcorn
dollars, I’m going to go out on a limb and predict what you’ll see when the
movie finally gets released. The big secret is
this, Luke Skywalker, our lovable hero and up-and-coming Jedi will in episode 7 be seen to have joined the
darkside. Seem like a stretch? (scoffs) It’s not. Let’s look at the facts. First,
let’s start with the lore that exists in the Expanded Universe. For those of you
who aren’t … umm what are Star Wars fans called like what’s the Star Wars equivalent of
a Trekkie? The Warsian? A Starwarian? A Warfan! uh … A Starwarfan! Yea, it’s got a vague
catchiness to it I suppose. Anyway, the Expanded Universe covers the
officially licensed material of Star Wars outside of the films, the Clone Wars,
and Rebels. In one story from the universe, the comic Dark Empire, Emperor
Palpatine’s soul is reborn into a clone, yeah seriously, who is successfully able
to bring Luke under his control through the seduction of the dark side. Now,
admittedly Lucasfilms said that the Expanded Universe is no longer canon but
the seed of an idea certainly existed and honestly we’ve only just begun because when you think about it Luke was
already headed down the road to the dark side in the original trilogy. I mean what is the dark side? Well, it’s
the part of the force that draws from, shock of all shocks, darker emotions. You
know like fear, anger, hatred, aggression, all that good stuff. Basically, the emo
Care Bears. It’s often described as the quick and easy path and Jedi usually had
to train their entire lives to resist the seduction of the dark side going as
far as to live by a list of tenants that they called the Jedi Code. Basically, the
code amounted to things like don’t lie, don’t murder, don’t add bad CGI to your re-releases, etc. They even had a neat
little mantra that summed up their order. “There is no emotion. There is peace. There is no ignorance. There is knowledge
There is no passion. There is serenity. There is no chaos. There is harmony.
There is no death. There is the force.” Man, the more you think about it, the more the
Jedi sound like a cult. Even still this code didn’t stop several prominent Jedi
from falling over to the dark side. The number that did so is countless in
the Expanded Universe, but there are still numerous examples and still
canonical material. Count Dooku left the order to become the Sith Lord Darth
Tyrannis, Obi-Wan’s master Qui-Gon Jinn is also mentioned to have flirted with
the dark side and often disagreed with the Jedi Council, Jedi Knights Barriss
Offee and Pong Krell both fell to the dark side during the events of the Clone
Wars cartoon, and of course the most prominent Fallen Jedi of all Anakin Skywalker. During the production
of the prequel trilogy, George Lucas himself explained that the Star Wars
saga is quote like poetry it rhymes. Qui-Gon mirrors Obi-Wan
Amidala mirrors Leia and the clearest example of all Anakin mirrors Luke. In the prequels, Yoda
warned against training Anakin from the very beginning because he was too old
and full of emotional attachments but if Yoda feared that Anakin’s training had
started too late at the ripe old age of 10 then Luke was
even worse off. He was right around 18 when he began
training with Obi-Wan. In fact, when Luke first approaches Yoda, he also says that Luke is too old of course
he reluctantly gives in knowing that Luke is the best hope for the Jedi, but still
sounds awfully similar to what he said about the dark side’s greatest warrior.
Let’s also remember Luke’s failure at the cave of evil. One of Luke’s biggest tests is to confront whatever you may
find in the cave on Dagobah. Within it, Luke finds the shadow of Darth Vader,
that he seemingly defeats only for Vader’s mask to break revealing Luke’s
face underneath. Now, not only did that foreshadow the
twist that Vader was Luke’s father but it also hints that Luke’s destiny may be
to become a Vader-like figure. I mean Yoda even says it himself!
When Luke asks what’s in the cave Yoda replies “only what you take with you.”
The only thing in there is Luke. That shadow Vader is inside of him before
Luke has any strong connection with Vader. Just wait till he finds out that it’s
his father and if that wasn’t enough, Luke’s emotions get the better of
him when he brashly leaves his training with Yoda to save his friends in Cloud City,
a direct parallel to Anakin’s own recklessness and not only that but Yoda
straight up points out that he’s making the exact same mistake Vader made. “Only a fully trained Jedi Knight with
the force as his ally, will conquer Vader and his emperor. If you end your training now, if you choose the quick and easy path, as Vader
did, you will become an agent of evil.” An agent of evil. How often do we see Yoda wrong
throughout this franchise and yet Luke left anyway and everything does
indeed go horribly wrong. He confronts Vader and gets his hand
chopped off, Bobba Fett steals away Han Solo, and everyone else only barely escapes in one piece. It’s this moment, this defeat at the end
of episode 5, where Luke’s change starts to happen. Look at how is presented in episode 6.
He wears black and stands ominously in a position that’s visually similar to that
of the Emperor and when dealing with Jaba, he sounds arrogant, he makes threats,
even flat out lies. “Nevertheless, I’m taking Captain Solo and his friends. You can either profit by
this or be destroyed. It’s your choice, but I warn you not to
underestimate my power.” That’s not the way of the Jedi and if we
look at the climax of Return of the Jedi, Luke’s descent nears its completion and
its similarities to Vader are at its greatest. The Emperor goads Luke into striking at him,
taunting him, and telling him “To strike me down with all of your hatred and your
journey towards the dark side will be complete and Luke tries it. He actually tries. The only reason he
doesn’t murder the Emperor in cold blood is Vader intervening and blocking the
attack. Then when Vader threatens Leia later on, Luke gets enraged, tapping into his dark side emotions, and
using them to defeat Vader in combat. He only stops after he cuts off Vader’s hand revealing the electronic
arm underneath and realizing that he is literally becoming his father. Palpatine then
urges Luke to kill Vader and become his new pupil, as Anakin once did
to Dooku, but Luke refuses saying that “I am a Jedi like my father before me.” Now you might think that this one little
phrase means that Luke is taking a stand and choosing the light but actions
speak louder than words and none of his actions up to this point have been that
of a True Jedi and look specifically at his choice of words. “I am a Jedi like my father before me.” His father, yea …
the one who helped destroy the entire Jedi Order. Not exactly the ideal role
model in that situation, so despite everything pointing towards
Luke giving in and failing as a Jedi everyone ends up ok in the final moments
of episode 6. Seems kind of like a cop out doesn’t it. Well it does until you consider one more thing, a more blatant Luke is falling to the
dark side ending may have been what was originally intended for the film. Meet
Gary Kurtz, the producer of the first two, Star Wars films with George Lucas who
actually helped secure the funding for the first movie. This man is basically the co-creator of
Star Wars in everything but title. However, as the series went on Lucas and
Kurt’s had a falling out about where Star Wars should be headed causing
Kurtz to leave production of Return of the Jedi. This was a huge blow to the cast and
crew with Mark Hamill describing the situation in broken family terminology. He said it was like mom and dad getting
a divorce. They were both equally loved and respected on set, so Gary Kurtz definitely knows what he’s
talking about when Star Wars is concerned. Now believe it or not, Kurtz actually went decades without
talking about his falling out with Lucas but in 2010 he finally explained where
they were originally going with episode 6. Now keep in mind that Kurtz probably
still has a bit of a chip on his shoulder because of the falling, but his
word on the subject still has a lot of merit. He explained, “We had an outline and George
changed everything in it. Instead of bittersweet and poignant, he wanted a
euphoric ending where everyone was happy. The original idea was that they would
recover the kidnapped Han Solo in the early part of the story and that he
would die in the middle part of the film in a raid on an imperial base. The
interview clarified the ending stating, “The discussed ending of the film that
Kurtz favored presented the rebel forces in tatters, Leia grappling with her new duties as
Queen, and Luke walking off alone like Clint Eastwood in the spaghetti westerns,
as Kurtz put it. This ending clearly isn’t the one that happened, as Kurtz explains it was because the toy
business began to drive the Lucasfilm Empire and Lucas wanted a happier ending.
That ending sounds very different from what we got, but a bittersweet ending
with Luke walking alone into the sunset still doesn’t mean he was going to turn
himself to the dark side right? Well you should consider one more thing, Mark Hamill himself liked the idea in an
episode of the show dinner for five Kevin Smith asked Hamil if he thought
Luke Skywalker should have fallen to the dark side. “I should have … I pitched that to
George, no as an actor that would be more fun to play, I just thought that’s
the way it was going from when we finish 2 – I figured that’s what will be the
pivotal moment.” And you know what the best part of all this is? JJ Abrams director
of episode 7 was at the table during that episode of dinner for five. Mark
Hamill was basically pitching that to JJ and honestly I think he’d do it. Remember
episode 7 takes place 30 years after Return of the Jedi so there’s really plenty of time for the
darkness to set in on Luke’s psyche but here’s the biggest thing, lore
characterization aside, look at the man behind the movie. Abrams has a philosophy about
movie making that his film should be made like a mystery box. He did a really interesting TED talk
about it which if you haven’t seen you should totally watch. “It goes on and on and look like
Star Wars, you got the droids and then you get the mysterious woman, who’s that? We don’t
know, mystery box you know when you meet Luke Skywalker. He gets the droid, you see
the holographic image, you learn all it’s a message, you know, she wants to you know
find Obi-Wan Kenobi, he’s her only hope but who the hell goes on Kenobi mystery
box so you go and he meets Ben Kenobi, Ben Kenobi’s all is Obi-Wan Kenobi, holy
shit you know, so it keeps it something … Have you guys not seen that?” Basically,
the gist of it is that he thinks film should be a surprise. You shouldn’t know spoilers going in and
twists should be hidden until the release. An excellent example of this was his
work with Star Trek Into Darkness. Everyone involved with production
insisted that Benedict Cumberbatch wasn’t playing Khan, going so far as to
create fake leaks, have actors like Karl Urban and accidentally reveal that
Cumberbatch was playing a different villain, and film fake scenes with a
different name for pre-release materials. If there is anyone anyone who would
appreciate this sort of twist, the idea that the hero we followed for three
films has suddenly turned to the dark side, it’s JJ, I helped create Lost, Abrams
but he’s learned his lesson from Into Darkness and has sealed this twist so
completely in his mystery box that he isn’t even giving us a glimpse of Luke
before the film hits the silver screen. He doesn’t even want to run the risk of
any clues getting out so that way Luke’s tragic fall shocks the world on December
18 as Yoda himself says “Once you start down the dark path … forever will it dominate your destiny.” Luke started down that path in the
movies and Abrams is the type of director who would take that idea and
run with it. Is Luke a Fallen Jedi in the Force Awakens? Yes, I think so, but HEY that’s just a
THEORY … a FILM THEORY … at least until December 18, by the way while you’re here
consider subscribing because we have more Star Wars theories up our sleeve
in anticipation of the new movie. All aboard the hype train, whoo whoo, and
seriously I joked about it before but do take a minute to check out my friends
over at Screen Rant and their video on the top 10 film theories that change
everything. there’s some fun ones in there and none
are ones that we’ve actually covered so click right here and go check it out then let me know which one you want to
see me cover in a future episode. I’ll be watching taking note and then adding it
to my list of ones to cover in 2016 and finally if you don’t care about any of
that other stuff one last vote light side or dark side
easy as that Jedi Master or Sith Lord click on one to choose we’ll see which
side ultimately wins …

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  1. With the release of the movie, the theory is wrong. BUT Luke did straight up kill around 1.5 million people when he destroyed the first death star. Is that the actions of a Jedi or Sith? That's genocide. Luke is a mass murderer. He is basically Sith in all but name. It's a fight between Siths in Return of the Jedi.

  2. Did anyone else read the whole script that matpat gave us? No? Come on!?!? There’s gotta be someone out there?!?!

  3. You should have theorized he wouldn’t turn to evil. Why? Because it would probably mean he did. lol So many of your wrong theories are better than the truth.

  4. Spoiler Alert: When Luke faced "Vader" at the cave, his face in the mask represented that he faced his fear of joining the dark side.

  5. I came and watched this video after I watched the movie just because your one of my favorite YouTubers

  6. A day ago, in a closet in Southern California… a guy named matpat made a Star Wars theory that was wrong. You tried, just not hard enough.

  7. I must say, it would have been a cool twist in the movie…When I saw the force awakens I was…disappointed

  8. 4 Years Later This was like the theory for the meteor hitting Tilted Towers when I said it was going to be hitting Dusty Depot and everyone hating on me.

  9. Vader the hero. PLUS have you heard the title of the last movie? RISE OF SKYWALKER!!!!! Plus THE EMPEROR IS STILL ALIVE!!! THAT MEANS LUKE HELPED PALPATINE ACHIEV HIS MASTER PLAN . Evidence, in the comics PALPATINE is Luke's GRANDFATHER!!!

  10. 10:32 I don't want to be mean but lmao his hair looks like a Death Star gunner helmet, even his beard representing the strap

  11. 4:58 Omg.. Get out of my head!!! I was thinking the same thing when you were reading all those off!!!!.. Def cult like!! 😂🤣😉👌👏💯

  12. I think Yoda saying that "once you start down the dark path forever will it dominate your destiny" is a load of crap look at Vader at the end of return of the jedi when look takes the mask off Vader's eyes are as blue as the blade of his 1st light saber not sith yellow, Anakin then takes it one step further and even becomes one with the force

  13. "How often do we see Yoda wrong?" Throughout the entirety Clone Wars and Episodes 1-3. His rigid mindset is his greatest flaw. His idea of the Jedi being an emotionless cult directly led to the rise of Darth Vader

  14. Anyone pause to read the fast forwarding summary of how he came to this conclusion in the beginning of the episode? Just me…ok then.

  15. Also, Luke used force choke in ROTJ, but that force power isn't exclusive to the Sith. And it's not like a couple of Gamorrean Guards would determine if Luke fell to the darkside. Another point is Luke flirted with the darkside, after Vader threatened to turn his sister (which it's totally understandable why Luke went off the deep end) to the darkside. Obi-Wan forgot to tell Luke about force lightning, Yoda could share that failure with Obi-Wan, anyway.

  16. Gonna point out a small error. Not with the theory overall(thought it was wrong in the end) but with your choice of words. The term "cold blooded " means WITHOUT emotional reason. So to kill someone in cold blood is to kill them without emotional reason. He tried to kill the emperor because he was fucking livid. Far from cold blooded.

  17. he came to…

    FILM THEORY! Yes, I guess luke joined film theory and is now making theories about how he's actually on the dark side.

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