Film Theory: The Rat That Beat Thanos! (Marvel Endgame)

Film Theory: The Rat That Beat Thanos! (Marvel Endgame)

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  1. To everyone asking whether I calculated the rats repopulating, I did and just cut it before the final draft because it got too pedantic and lost in it's own numbers. Also, we wind back up at 50 rats anyway. Here's what got cut in case you were curious:

    "That means that at the beginning of five years, we're dealing with 50-ish rats in Scott Lang's area, which would replenish to their population carrying capacity in the course of just a few generations. Given that rat food supplies might be lower now that there are only half the people on the world, let's assume that they don’t get back to the full 100 rat population in Scott's immediate area, but that they make a good 50% surge back up to 75 rats roving all over Scott. Realistically it's almost impossible to know for our specific area exactly how many rats would be here, but we're making our best assumption right now and I'm trying to at least give Scott a fighting chance.

    So over the course of the six months after the Great Snap, rats would have pretty much bounced back, given that a new generation of rat babies is ready to go every six weeks. To get our final number, we’ll assume that an average-sized rat community would have at most around 50 rats out searching for food at any given time, since about a third of them are statistically in the nest at a given time."

  2. is no one going to talk about how when the avengers snap in endgame they technically snapped out half the universe cuz they can't just snap out thanos

  3. The odds of one rat pushing the bottom might be mayor.
    It's never mentioned what lifeforms disappeared with the snap, it could be the half of the universe living organisms and considering the extension of the universe the earth could not even been afected, the we know it did but it might not erase any rat!!

  4. I’m not gonna lie, when me and my brother walked out of the theater, we were discussing our favorite parts, and I was like “the rat that saved the universe”

  5. I can live with the idea that one rat randomly saves the universe, but the thing I really can't get behind is that out of the 14m-1 possibilities where Thanos is victorious, there isn't one Thanos aware of the fact that someone tries to stop him via time travel (as we see in Endgame). Let's say there is one version of the final battle in Endgame with Thanos winning. Wouldn't he make sure by using the IS that no one use time travel?

  6. Rats reproduce extremely fast. Their natural predators have also been half snapped away without the extreme breeding capability. With half the humans as well, you can see the city going into disarray. I prime breeding ground for a plauge of rats. 5 years isnt enough time to deplenish the food supply of such a huge city so exponential growth in that time would be expected.

  7. 6:05 what an interesting way to estimate pi, using rats and football fields. My favorite way to estimate pi is shown on a video by "3blue1brown" called "The most unexpected answer to a counting puzzle"

  8. The real question I would ask is, "If you previously got stuck in the Quantum Realm and got out by having one of Hank Pym's size altering discs, why would you EVER enter the realm again without having the same back up method in reserve?

  9. I mean, it could've been anything, so long as it was a freak accident. Maybe a power surge could do it, or anything. I assume it took a press of a button to release Scott, so statistically it could happen.

  10. Well, there are several movie that start with tiny events. Take the Lego movie, which starts only because Emmett just so happened to lose his pamphlet (his instructions), fall into a hole, and finding the piece of resistance.

  11. Here's an interesting thought. If you lived in the MCU, where would you have been at the time of the snap? I've worked it out to be 26 April, 2018 at 4 pm GMT.

  12. Legitimately watched you for 3 hours yesterday 😂 work is crazy boring and I'm here for theories while its slow, padding mad Pat's stats.

  13. You didn't take rat breeding into account. There would have been growth in five years. It improves the odds as you've calculated them, but there's another problem you're going to run into.

    The problem here isn't whether the event would happen somewhere in five years – you need the fat part of the bell curve to land close to or directly on five years for all of the rest of the necessary intervening events with everybody else's characters to happen. That's going to substantially affect your likelihoods. What you need to be solving for here is the necessary initial rat population required to construct a curve where maybe 85+% of the possible outcomes fall around 4 to 6 years. Once you have that number, you would then have to calculate what the odds are that that number of animals would end up in San Francisco subsequent to the snap. The problem you solved is both trivial (even including the dozens upon dozens of confounding factors you left out, the chances of something reasonably plausible happening within the span of five years approaches 100%) and not particularly relevant to the question at hand.

  14. If you kill half of the rats it takes them not more than half a year till they have had so many childs that the rat population is at 100 again.

  15. Am i the only one who forgot that he usually does sponsors, and thought he was going to say that Peter Parker was the new tech genius?

  16. I mean, to be fair… It took five years for a mouse to set Antman free. 5 whole years. Endgame could have happened 1 or 2 years after infinity war, but it didn't. Because it took 5 years for Antman to get out.

  17. sorry , but as i know rats would reproduce very fast during the 5 years so i think you should have calculated that as well

  18. What about the fact that the life expectancy of a rat is 2 years. What if no boys or girls were left alive in the colony. Then the likelihood would be very low.

  19. Chances get even higher when you factor in rats short gestation period. There would be be more rats and half the humans…And cats, to kill them.

  20. Hey, a rat learned Ninjutsu from his owner and mutated then taught his adoptive, mutated, turtle sons. So… Why not? 😂😂😂

  21. Stephen: comes back from looking at the possibilities
    Quill: thinking He looks shocked. I wonder what he saw…
    Stephen: thinking The fate of the universe depends on a rat what the fuck

  22. If you factor in the rats reproductive capacity in the span of 5 years….. no, their food supply is primarily shot too ….. okay carry on

  23. mice can breed within 21 days tho and with less exterminators around the mice population probly thrived and possibly has more than 100 per colony

  24. This is why I quit watching Marvel movies. Because back to back highly unrealistic things happen just because the plot demands it and.. its a highly predictable plot. You know whos going to die, when they are going to die, how they are going to die and you stop caring because they all come back anyway. The only time a main character good guy is killed off is when their contract is about to expire.

    And heres a thing? Why didn't Hulk just punch Thanos in the throat?
    Why didn't Ant Man just go inside him and then expand?
    Why didn't Captain America use one of the jagged halves of his broken shield to slit Thanos's throat.
    Why did they keep going for body shots on Thanos?
    Why didn't Hulk kick him in the nuts?
    If Ant Man had really grown to that massive size, he would have blown away in the wind

    Rat happened because the plot demanded it.

    And here is the most confusing thing that also proves Thanos to be a complete idiot.
    Why did he not snap away the Avengers as well when he did the snap.

    Thanos when he was on Earth he was so ineffective at getting rid of all life on Earth as he said.

    More people were born on Earth during the time that he was on Earth than he killed.

    The smartest person in the entire movie was the guy who said they should go back in time and kill Thanos as a baby. He was so dangerous to fight as an adult that the ONLY way he could possibly be beaten was by luck. And that is why you had so many because the plot demands it moments in Endgame.

  25. The whole rat thing is what ruined the movie for me. It basically means that Dr Strange's big move was hoping the rat would step on a button and thus taking the agency from the Avengers. If the only thing they were lacking was a chance at Scott coming back then it should have been something set in motion by Dr Strange and not just a fingers crossed this works.

  26. I just want to say that Dr Strange predicts all of the futures and they only win in 1 out of 14 million or whatever, so this is that 1 in 14 million chance where Antman gets released by a rat. Therefore meaning they just stumbled into that one possibility through random chance.

  27. I really appreciate how you did this but if there are lots of tables/vans/sewers then they can go under and over it so it is actually even less likely but you are right that this is the best way to figure it out

  28. Don't worry Mat! The Avengers not only have Black Panther's techy sister/relative (can y'all tell I haven't seen the movie?) but S.H.I.E.L.D. has Daisy/Skylar or whatever her name is now (can y'all tell I haven't kept up with the Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. show?)

  29. There's a LOT of human SHIT on the streets of SF… So why wouldn't there be a lot of rats eating this human shit? Can you do a film theory on that???

  30. That's something I never thought about how devistating it would be to the planets economy to have 3.5 billion people vanish and how impossible it be to accommodate them all returning instantly 5 years later WITH NO WARNING they would of had to adjust production and inflation to have survived the vanishing and hard as that be it be impossible to switch it back INSTANTLY to power there stuff have meds for them FOOD AND CLEAN WATER they don't grow food for 3.5 billion people that no longer exists and haven't for years I mean that's something I don't think the earth economy or government or civilization as a hole could survive really think how much of an effect it have on rich and POOR country's lolol earth still ends up loosing millions of not billions of people except from starvation and war instead of thanos thanks avengers lolol

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