Move Show Episode 5:  Move Sideways

Move Show Episode 5: Move Sideways

(audience loudly clapping) – Hi I’m Stephanie Bendixsen. And strap into your flying cars. We’re off for an adventure
into future modes of transport in this episode of MOVE,
where the sky is the limit. (house beat techno music) Here it is, the episode we’ve all been waiting for, flying cars. And not just flying cars but
all new and exciting forms of transport from the elusive
Hyperloop, to personal Sky Pods, to the Marty McFly
special, the Hoverboard. We may even be able to touch on the even more radical
concept of flying trains. But probably not, because frankly they just sound terrifying. But flying cars are no longer
just a flight of fancy. I thought it was clever. They are finally set to become a reality. With new models ready for commercial role out as soon as 2020. Prototypes have already been
built by companies including Uber, Airbus, Kitty Hawk, Google, Ferrari. There are luxury models,
urban mobility models, family wagon models, James
Bond arch villain models, ones which float on water,
and the more practical flying taxi already
testing in Tokyo, Paris, Mumbai, Delhi, Bangalore, Rio de Janeiro, Zempoala, New Zealand, and Australia. One is with us here in this studio. It’s one of the world’s
first flying racing cars. It’s called the Alauda. And the benefits seem obvious. If you wanna fight
gridlock, what better way to do that than introducing
a whole other dimension. I mean, who’s every heard of cube-lock? Also, the sky has fewer
issues with road works. And it makes carjacking a lot harder. And if a bird poops on your car then you’ll finally be
able to go after it. But, if we’re having
accidents on the ground then surely we wouldn’t
be any better in the sky. I mean, how much worse would
it be when an everyday prang means a vehicle plummeting
from a great height. So, is the average person
ready to play sky driver? We hit the streets or as,
I’d like to think of them, the skies of the past to ask. (upbeat violin plucking) – Flying car? – Yeah, if it was safe I’d take one for a test drive, slash fly. – Not sure, I’m not sure. I will wait for others to try that, yet. – I’ve been waiting
since The Jetsons, yeah. – It just be fun, be cool. – It could be scary, yeah. – Oh, I think it’d be
very, it’d be a lot of fun providing it’s, you know, there’s some sort of air traffic control involved. – Does it come with a parachute (laughs)? (loud electronic beeping) – So it looks like our future of flying cars will be in demand. Tonight we have with us two
guests who’s pioneering spirits have led them into this
fantastical new field. Please welcome the general
manager for Uber Australia and New Zealand, Susan Anderson. (audience loudly clapping) And Optus vice president of
product innovation and strategy, Deon Liebenberg. (audience loudly clapping) So, Susan and Deon,
futurologists and movie makers are obsessed with flying cars. But, other than to satisfy
our futurist fantasies, do we really need them in our lives? I mean, are they actually gonna help us or hinder the human progress. – They’re absolutely gonna help us. They’re part of what
we need in our future. Right now, the ability to get to jobs means that you have to
live near the city center. That means that people are
all located in the same area. And we know what that results in. It results in high house prices,
it results in congestion, it means that it’s hard
for people to get around. As soon as we can introduce flying cars, that means that that journey
from the central coast to Sydney could take only eight minutes instead of an hour and a half today. Or if you’ve ever had to do the journey from Melbourne airport
into the city center there. Rather than taking an hour,
it takes eight minutes. I know I want that time back so I can get home and read my
kids’ stories at night. – So absolutely, the future that we’re living in is a connected one. Absolutely agree that
everything will be connected. It’ll be flying cars,
it’ll be flying everything. The challenge that we facing is, we first need to connect this world. We need to connect every
single thing to allow these flying objects to
fly and drive autonomously. And that’s what keeps us evolving. It took us a good 26 years to connect six billion mobile phones in the world. It’s only gonna take us two years to collect 50 billion things Stephanie. It’s happening. It’s happening, it’s
happening as we sit here. It’s changing at warp speed, our lives. – I mean, it’s an exciting but
daunting prospect, isn’t it. I mean, are these the kind of
vehicles we’re gonna be able to pop our kids in and
send them off to school? – So let’s think about what
will drive the adoption of it. If, it’s all around trust. If you can trust something,
then you’ll probably do this. It has to go mainstream. As I was mentioned, it’s not just these cars that need to be connected. Highways, airspace’s,
things around us, buildings. If we don’t map out a digital
version of this world. We refer to that as the digital
twin, everything connected. Then this won’t happen. Once that’s happened, you build trust, and absolutely, the world changes. – But we do need to change the way we move around and the way
we think about vehicles. We need to move this mindset
from us owning our cars. It’s not gonna be about
individuals having a fly car. Or individuals having autonomous vehicles. If that’s the future,
that is more congestion, that is less safety, that’s not the path. We need to shift this
mindset towards sharing this infrastructure and
using it as we need it. And if we can do that, that means private cars go off the road. That means the safety because we have you know, autonomous vehicles
and we have autonomous or experienced pilots flying the vehicles. That’s what we need to move towards. So it’s the connectivity,
it’s the vehicles, but it’s the mindset change. We all need to get use
to sitting with strangers and traveling with them and embrace that as part of how we get around. – What’s the impact gonna be on the human? It’s about how you take the adoption between technology and
the user experience. Because it’s, currently it’s
a point-to-point conversation. I wanna have a
point-to-purpose conversation. Where am I going? Why am I going there? Do I need a Uber board? Do I need a self-driverless car? Do I need something to fly? These things will happen. They are busy happening
and it’s fueled through massive data capturing,
everything connected, unlimited spectrum and capacity. It will change the way
we live, and travel. – So, Susan I understand Uber is working on a prototype for a flying taxi. Can you tell us a little bit about that? – Absolutely. Uber Air, our vision for
that is a fully autonomous, fully electric, which means
it’s good for the environment, vertical takeoff and landing vehicle. I want you to imagine a large-scale drone. That can move four or
five people at a time. Now rather than just going to the Uber app and binging out to get in a car, hit a button and it
turn up in five minutes. You’ll be able to go to
the app and you’ll be able to get that on demand air aerial vehicle or aircraft that’s gonna
take you from point-to-point. This is real. I’ve met the master scientists. They’ve been to Australia twice to talk to us about how this works. And we’ve got some of the best engineers globally working on this problem. And the reason why this will work is because the best engineers
want to work on this. This is what they want to make happen. – We mentioned safety. I mean, a big topic of conversation around flying cars is safety. What are the challenges of putting these vehicles in the air. – Autonomous vertical takeoff and landing vehicles will be safer than cars. Autonomous technology will make it safer. And this will be a technology which is not about individuals
having flying cars. It’s about a shared network. And so working really closely with Civil Aviation Authorities around, how do we think about that
future of urban aired travel? Which will include drones delivering food. It will include aerial vehicles delivering people and
how that will interact. It needs to be able to
interact with birds. It needs to be able to interact with other vehicles and
operate in a safe way. We believe again we have
NASA scientists working on that exact problem
and talking with both the US federal agencies as
well as the Australian CASA in terms of making sure
that’s a safe and a reality. – So if autonomous planes
were to be rolled out. I imagine there are considerations
that need to be had. Such as the design of helipads
and buildings and skyway’s. I mean, I imagine there’d be a number of different players to
kind of make that a reality. What kind of conversations
and major players are having to make this whole thing work? – We’re working really
closely with government. We’re working closely with
partners to understand exactly where we need
to expand the network. How we need to bold out capacity. It’s about latency, it’s about always on. It’s about, I trust that
if I have to swerve, that the network will be there
and it will be constantly. You know 5G will change the way we engage. 5G will fuel this digital
economy that we’re talking about. The future of these cars. And we’re very close to the
New South Wales transport. Very, very, very futuristic. I salute them. They are forward thinkers. They’re pushing the
boundaries on a daily basis and, you know, helping us
to go create the future. – The conversations we’re having right now is with transport authorities, with the Civil Aviation Authorities, but also with infrastructure and people who own the infrastructure
around our cities. What this will need to be is, Skyport’s exist where we are today. And so, I want you to think about on top of the buildings you’re working
in, in these skyscrapers. On top of car parks which
will need to find a purpose in the future when people are
no longer using private cars. But also very connected in with the public transport network. Imagine, that you’re
coming from your house, you’re going to get a
e-bike, an e-scooter, or maybe a shared ride to a Skyport’s. You will then get in your aerial aircraft. Which will take you in and
connect you to the train. Which will get you your
last mile to the office. That’s the way that we
wanna think about transport. It’ll be multi-modalities, all accessed through one app, or through your virtual assistant.
– Exactly. – [Susan] Or through
your kind of, being able to access that within your house. And that’s how we need
to think about transport. What we need to move away
from is, I’ve got my car, this is how I’m getting around. – Gone, no more.
– This, changing that is what we need in order to be able to stop congestion and really help us move
and have future cities. We’ve had the engineers
speak to Australia already. They’ve met with state governments. We’ve met with the federal government. We’ve met with the Civil
Aviation Safety Authorities. And let’s talk about what this looks like. And there’s a real chance
that Sydney and Melbourne will be the third city to test this. And that will be in 2020. With commercial operations in 2023. So this is real, it’s happening,
it’s not just The Jetsons. I think by the time my
kids hit middle school they can definitely think
about getting flying cars. – So how do we go about rolling out this kind of new forward
thinking transport with the current transport that we have? Because when you think about autonomous vehicles,
flying cars, everything. It doesn’t all just shift to
this sort of new way of moving. – No it does not. It’s habit forming. So if you think back historically before people were able
to afford their own cars. People had different ways of moving. And then gradually, people bought cars and then that became that habit. We now to move into the next phase where we start rebuilding our habits. Part of that is thinking about pooled technology, sharing vehicles. We’ve launched UberPOOL
across Sydney and Melbourne. We’re not sure, we were kind
of not sure how it would go. Would people be willing
to share cars together? Would they be resistant to it? Actually, we found this subsection of customers now who
exclusively take UberPOOL’s. They get conversation but
it’s also so much cheaper. And so we need to start
building this habit. Which is you’ll open an app, you’ll plan your journey end-to-end. You’ll think about, what is the best way for me to get to this point to that point? And for it to include multiple modes. Looking for, how do we
take congestion out? How do we make our cities
more environmentally friendly? More reliant on electric vehicles and these types of technology. And ultimately quicker and
just a nicer way to get around. – We keep on investing in all
major cities, rural Australia. To build the best capable network. That will fuel all things connected including cars, self-driverless cars. Including superhighways,
including everything. Because it’s not just about the car it’s about the entire
ecosystem around that. – And moving sideways Deon, the major transport issue for many
is their commute to work. If in future we’re able
to go through the air or telepresence technology,
will that be able to solve some of these commute issues? If we’re working in different ways? – So we had a long conversation
or rather quite frankly, do we think people will need
to travel in the future? If everything is connected, you
have unlimited connectivity. The future of having a conversation with someone real time through VR. You know, work is no longer a place. You know, it’s an activity based task. And we’ve found recently that
more than 80% of people today telecommute more than 40%
per day of their life. So the question is, is it
about self-driverless cars? Is it about, you know, VR? Is it about how we consume? We believe that in the future it’ll be by choice of the customer. It will be fueled 100% by all
these technologies and I think it gives people options to
spend time with their loved one. – Well with it’s giant sleeping
planes Australia may be the perfect place to trial
these magnificent machines. Which is why our field
reporter Josh Phillipps went on the hunt for a distinctly
Aussie flying car prototype. – These days everyone seems to
be talking about flying cars. And it’s made me wanna
try to make one of my own. But I’d have to find a way to differentiate myself in the market. Mine would have to be uniquely Australian and solve a uniquely Australian problem. The Aussie Ute was first
released by Ford in 1934 and quickly became the vehicle of choice for many Australians
living in the Outback. Henry Ford even called
it the kangaroo chaser because it had to be
sturdy enough to encounter one of the biggest hazards
on our Outback roads. In Australia, kangaroos
cause more road accidents than all other animal collisions combined. So, I reckon creating a
flying version of the humble Aussie Ute might just be
able to solve this problem. To build a flying car, first you’ve gotta know how they work. I’m here at Alauda Aeronautics,
home of one of the world’s first flying racing car prototypes to see if they can give me some tips. – Alauda was founded about two years ago by a civil entrepreneur Matt Pearson. He always had a dream
since he was a young kid to be able to live like The Jetsons. And the dream of, you
know, of flying cars. – We’ve been promised a flying
car for a very long time. But who made that promise? And who’s gonna make it? – At Alauda, it’s our goal to make that dream become a reality. This is the Alauda Mark two. It’s the, our attempt at
making a 3/4 scale replica of what we hope to
eventually make in the future as a full manned aerial vehicle. – Everything that’s been
designed off the shelf today is for much more drones and parts. We’ve had kinda build
it from the ground up. – Obviously it’s built off
this sort of same platform as a quadcopter but
scaling it to this size? There’s a lot of challenges with that. You’re dealing with high
powered electronics. The flight control systems work very differently at this scale. – You become unable to
source, off the shelf pods. And you go custom pods. – [Matthew] The power
requirements are huge. We’ve learned so much in
terms of how to design, and how to build, and how
to get stuff manufactured. – [Josh] So, the big question is, what do you need to make a flying car and could I do it myself? – You need a lot of time
and you need a lot of money. I think those are the two things you need if you want to make a flying car. – [Vanja] What you need is a vehicle and someone crazy enough
to sit behind it and fly. – I don’t think anyone could
just build a flying car. I think it’s easy to go online and see YouTube videos of people
making big drones. It’s very easy to make something hover, very difficult to make it fly. – So that’s some pretty
complicated stuff going on there. I think we need to turn
our attention back down to the ground to see what other solutions we can find to protect the
roos and drivers on our road. Luckily I’ve got a friend who’s working on that exact problem. Let’s go and have a chat to him. – Hi ya Josh.
– Hi, how you doing? Hey, nice to meet you.
– Good how are you? Very good.
– Now, you’re part of a team developing a Smart Ute is that right? – Absolutely.
– Great. Can you tell me, what is a Smart Ute and what are you looking for it to do? – Well, we’re developing a Smart Ute. Suitable for the Australian Outback. So the car will detect
a kangaroo on the road and it will either slow
down or it will stop to ensure that there is no
collision with any animals. We’re working with the Australian
Centre of Field Robotics. There’s been a lot of studies around human movement, around vehicles. But not a lot has been done
around the kangaroo movement. So, the studies that we’re
doing now around humans. We’re transferring that
into animal movements. And we’re predicting how the animal behaves around a vehicle. It’s about the detection, it’s gonna be very difficult to deter an animal. So, what this technology is doing now is basically just avoiding any collisions. We’ve got a huge issue with animals on our roads in regional Australia. This technology is gonna
help avoid collisions. Making our roads safer for everyone. – Well, I think my flying Ute idea may be a little bit harder than
I originally thought. But the Smart Ute that’s
currently in development may be the answer to all or our problems when it comes to detecting
and avoiding animals like kangaroos on our roads
in regional Australia. Or in other countries like
Canada where they have the problem of moose on
the road, for example. But I still wanna know,
where’s my flying car? (loud electronic beeping) – And bringing it back down to Earth, what kinds of transformative technology have you seen for pedestrians or those who may be a more mobility challenged? – We’ve really committed to
investing into this space to make sure that nobody’s left behind. That this becomes a network
that everybody can access. I think one of the things
that’s really interesting is we’re seeing a growth
in people introducing their parents to things like Uber. You know, particularly
for older people where if they lose their license or their no longer able to drive themselves. It can feel like a real lose in freedom. And already we’re seeing, kind of, people being able to connect in. Their parents, getting
them using the service. Because it does give that
flexibility and that freedom. And it’s affordable as well. So, I think there’s more in that journey. But taking people on that way to make sure nobody’s left behind
is absolutely critical. – If I can link to that,
we’ve actually done some work with one of the largest
airlines in Australia recently. Re-imagining a travelers journey. And we actually put ourselves
five years ahead of time and re-imagined the journey
of an 80 year old traveler. How that individual would
travel five years in the future. And we went through the customer journey. And the questions we ended up with, do you actually need luggage? Will you not be able to print your luggage when you arrive on the other side? Maybe five years is a little bit short but we re-imagined the entire
journey of what someone would go through five years down the line with connected everything
and everything supercharged. – I’m not sure about printing my clothes. – Absolutely.
– I don’t know how that would work. – These were printed. Their (laughs). – Were they really? – No, but lets, work with me. – But maybe we should
just be renting clothes when we arrive there, you know. It’s kind of, it’s all about sharing. – It’s a sharing economy,
exactly (laughs). – Welp there’s plenty of
innovation happening to keep our imaginations fired up and our
technologists ready to go. I for one will happily volunteer to jump into the first formula one on air. It’s closer than you think. That’s all the time we have. Thank you so much to Susan and Deon. And thank you so much to you for watching. I’m Stephanie Bendixsen, until
next time, keep on moving. (audience loudly clapping) (house beat techno music)

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  1. Flying cars are a stupid idea, it takes considerably more energy to take-off and it creates a lot more challenges. We have planes and helicopters already but we don't all catch a helicopter to work – smh. Public shared transport is part of the solution, but in the near future, more people will be working remotely ie: from home, so we won't even need to travel anything like we need to now. The statement about luggage must have been a joke as well, (hey let's go on holiday and get NO gifts for anyone, or bring ANYTHING back with us – stupid!). I hate to sound so negative but the only technology that was practical in this episode was the kangaroo sensors.

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